Join Brooklyn Elected Officials and Neighbors. Support F Train Service that Works for All!

We are outraged by the MTA’s treatment of Brooklyn straphangers on the F line.

The MTA’s so-called “F Express” proposal harms more F riders than it helps. It adds no service to the line. Instead, it simply pits Brooklyn residents against each other, creating ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ without sufficient information or dialogue.

Winners don’t really win: With irregular service times alternating between express and locals trains, riders can’t count on a meaningful change to their commute. They will still have to set their alarms and leave their homes at the same time as they do now.

Losers lose big: The MTA’s proposal would eliminate half the trains from the 6 local stations between Church Avenue and Jay Street/MetroTech. The result: long wait times and severely increased crowding at the fastest-growing stations.  

And now, they won’t even meet with us: The announcement of this proposal blindsided our communities. Now, despite a sworn promise to the contrary, the MTA refuses to even schedule a meeting to hear the concerns the community has raised. The total lack of response is completely unacceptable.

We refuse to accept the MTA’s current proposal as a done deal. We urge the MTA to not implement “F Express” service until a new plan to improve service on the F line for all riders, at local and express stops has been thoroughly vetted by the community.

We join our elected officials, Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan in demanding a plan to improve the F line in Brooklyn that doesn’t compromise riders on local stops and pit communities against one another.

We don’t want winners and losers. We don’t want F service that’s even less dependable than now.

We want improvements to the F line that work for all of us.

More about the MTA’s current proposal:

  • The proposal does not add any service to the F line, despite increased “F Express” track capacity.
  • Instead, it simply eliminates half the trains at 6 stations (Bergen St, Carroll St, Smith/9th St, 4th Ave/9th St, 15th St, and Ft. Hamilton Parkway). Trains will come 4-5 minutes less often (when they are on schedule). 
  • The MTA’s own report shows that the total number of riders who will suffer under this proposal (52%) is actually greater than the number of riders who will benefit (48%).  
  • That gap will grow larger over time. Ridership growth has been highest at the local stations between Church Av and Bergen St (66%). Growth at express stops (i.e., Church Av and 7 Av) was 34%. Meanwhile, ridership growth at stations south of Church Av, both express and local stops, has been considerably lower (18% and 15% respectively).
  • The “winners” don’t even really win. The MTA’s analysis of travel times shows that express riders during the AM peak hour would save on average 3.4 minutes due to faster running times. But in actuality, half the time these riders will save about 7 minutes, and half the time they’ll save nothing. With only 58% of trains operating on time, there’s no way to predict which is which. Even express stop riders will still have to set their alarm for the same time.
  • The proposal would severely exacerbate station congestion and travel delays. Riders at the Bergen and Carroll Stations will lose more travel time than riders at any single express stop will gain.
  • At Bergen Street, the MTA’s report predicts a nightmarish crowd, with a wait nearly five times longer for commuters trying to exit the Warren Street stairwell during the evening rush hour.
  • The MTA did not conduct real community engagement before it released its report.
  • Despite committing to do so in sworn testimony before the City Council, the MTA is now refusing to even schedule a meeting with the public about the proposal … or even with those elected to represent them.

Join Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan.

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  • signed 2017-01-22 22:41:18 -0500
    We all know what “F” stands for… and we riders are constantly effed by this train during “normal service” – never mind if there’s any kind of inclement weather – are you telling me that these signals can’t deal with a little RAIN – COME ON! After the recent YEARS of service interruption during the supposed Gowanus “upgrade” – the service only seems to have gotten worse. We wait long periods of time for RIDICULOUSLY overcrowded trains! I honestly don’t know how more people don’t have claustrophobic panic attacks on these trains on a daily basis. I urge these MTA decision makers to actually RIDE the F train during rush some time to experience the nightmare that it has become on a daily basis for thousands of riders. We DEMAND more trains for ALL stations from Church to Bergen anything less is a travesty!!
  • signed 2017-01-22 17:24:59 -0500
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  • signed 2017-01-16 11:51:54 -0500
    Terrific careful analysis. Thank you. The change for change’s sake mentality has to go. Public ownership should mean service is a top priority, not efficiency. Maybe it’s time to think about privatizing the MTA as it once was. The present management keeps implementing “cost saving efficiencies” but at the same time is always in the red. Might this not be a case of mismanagement? O for the days of Thomas Gunn and Richard Ravitch!
  • posted about this on Facebook 2017-01-13 22:34:17 -0500
    Tell the MTA we need F Train service that works for all:
  • signed 2017-01-13 22:33:24 -0500
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  • signed 2017-01-13 16:21:28 -0500
    My family relies on this train every day at the Carroll St. stop to get to/from work. Please don’t make our lives more difficult!
  • signed 2017-01-13 10:51:05 -0500
    My wife is a teacher and already has a 1 hour commute each way every day. Limiting F service will just make her already difficult schedule that much harder. Don’t cut F service!
  • signed 2017-01-12 10:14:43 -0500
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  • signed 2017-01-06 08:38:18 -0500
    We here in both WIndsor Terrace and Kensington Brooklyn, have had one after another way of travel changed to make our neighborhoods more remote and our commuting more difficult. We lost our reliable express bus service years ago when the MTA took it over. Service was cut by 75%, busses do not follow a schedule and we have stopped being able to rely on them.


    It is routine for the Fort Hamilton and 15th Street F stop stations to be closed for “work.” We here KNOW how it adds to what is already a long trip. In a city that encourages use of mass transit, the many of us who would be hurt by closing so many stations ask you to re-think the action and NOT make commuting in NYC so draughting for so many people and NEIGHBORHOODS!
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  • signed 2016-12-17 07:08:36 -0500
    The current overcrowding on the F is already a nightmare. During the rush hour, I often have to let 2-3 trains go by before I can squeeze onto a train. How can this be a situation in which we CUT service? And the fast growth of our area just proceeds…..pressure on this line will just increase even more.
  • signed 2016-12-16 23:01:27 -0500
  • signed 2016-12-16 15:26:53 -0500
    The F Train is already so crowded at Bergen Street, I can NOT use it safely during rush hour at my age (late 60s)
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  • posted about this on Facebook 2016-12-03 13:56:23 -0500
    Tell the MTA we need F Train service that works for all:
  • signed 2016-12-03 13:56:00 -0500
    My family and I rely on the Carroll F/G stop to take us to and from work each day. Cutting service from an already overcrowded stop only hurts people. Let’s get more trains running to ALL passengers on the F line benefit.
  • signed 2016-12-02 14:13:27 -0500
    My family uses the Bergen Street Station and believe me, we have noticed the increase in ridership and decrease in reliability.