Join Brooklyn Elected Officials and Neighbors. Support F Train Service that Works for All!

We are outraged by the MTA’s treatment of Brooklyn straphangers on the F line.

The MTA’s so-called “F Express” proposal harms more F riders than it helps. It adds no service to the line. Instead, it simply pits Brooklyn residents against each other, creating ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ without sufficient information or dialogue.

Winners don’t really win: With irregular service times alternating between express and locals trains, riders can’t count on a meaningful change to their commute. They will still have to set their alarms and leave their homes at the same time as they do now.

Losers lose big: The MTA’s proposal would eliminate half the trains from the 6 local stations between Church Avenue and Jay Street/MetroTech. The result: long wait times and severely increased crowding at the fastest-growing stations.  

And now, they won’t even meet with us: The announcement of this proposal blindsided our communities. Now, despite a sworn promise to the contrary, the MTA refuses to even schedule a meeting to hear the concerns the community has raised. The total lack of response is completely unacceptable.

We refuse to accept the MTA’s current proposal as a done deal. We urge the MTA to not implement “F Express” service until a new plan to improve service on the F line for all riders, at local and express stops has been thoroughly vetted by the community.

We join our elected officials, Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan in demanding a plan to improve the F line in Brooklyn that doesn’t compromise riders on local stops and pit communities against one another.

We don’t want winners and losers. We don’t want F service that’s even less dependable than now.

We want improvements to the F line that work for all of us.

More about the MTA’s current proposal:

  • The proposal does not add any service to the F line, despite increased “F Express” track capacity.
  • Instead, it simply eliminates half the trains at 6 stations (Bergen St, Carroll St, Smith/9th St, 4th Ave/9th St, 15th St, and Ft. Hamilton Parkway). Trains will come 4-5 minutes less often (when they are on schedule). 
  • The MTA’s own report shows that the total number of riders who will suffer under this proposal (52%) is actually greater than the number of riders who will benefit (48%).  
  • That gap will grow larger over time. Ridership growth has been highest at the local stations between Church Av and Bergen St (66%). Growth at express stops (i.e., Church Av and 7 Av) was 34%. Meanwhile, ridership growth at stations south of Church Av, both express and local stops, has been considerably lower (18% and 15% respectively).
  • The “winners” don’t even really win. The MTA’s analysis of travel times shows that express riders during the AM peak hour would save on average 3.4 minutes due to faster running times. But in actuality, half the time these riders will save about 7 minutes, and half the time they’ll save nothing. With only 58% of trains operating on time, there’s no way to predict which is which. Even express stop riders will still have to set their alarm for the same time.
  • The proposal would severely exacerbate station congestion and travel delays. Riders at the Bergen and Carroll Stations will lose more travel time than riders at any single express stop will gain.
  • At Bergen Street, the MTA’s report predicts a nightmarish crowd, with a wait nearly five times longer for commuters trying to exit the Warren Street stairwell during the evening rush hour.
  • The MTA did not conduct real community engagement before it released its report.
  • Despite committing to do so in sworn testimony before the City Council, the MTA is now refusing to even schedule a meeting with the public about the proposal … or even with those elected to represent them.

Join Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan.

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  • signed 2016-10-11 11:31:15 -0400
    This is a heavily populated neighborhood with large numbers who commute daily into the city via the F train. Bergen and Carroll street are some of the busiest stations and rank as high in need for the express and local service as smith/9th st and

    The downtown Bklyn stops. To minimize service to local only would hugely impact on the commuters in this area in the most negative way. Please consider the needs of this thriving and fastest growing area in Brooklyn and keep the F with express and local at these station stops!
  • signed 2016-10-11 08:52:54 -0400
  • signed 2016-10-10 20:58:54 -0400
    As a regular user of the Carroll St station, I would be directly affected by this unacceptable “express” change.
  • signed 2016-10-10 18:43:02 -0400
  • signed 2016-10-10 18:26:12 -0400
    Absurd solution

    Stop overbuilding until you have services
  • signed 2016-10-10 18:16:28 -0400
    Not only is this an outrage, the idea makes no sense.
  • signed 2016-10-10 17:15:05 -0400
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  • signed 2016-10-10 12:56:45 -0400
    The Carroll Street station is one of the busiest stations on this line. For every other train to stop there would be ridiculous.
  • signed 2016-10-09 20:23:42 -0400
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  • signed 2016-10-08 16:21:46 -0400
    Andrew Weiss
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  • signed 2016-10-01 15:15:24 -0400
    It will make bad service even worse.
  • signed 2016-10-01 14:50:05 -0400
  • @anthonyrallo tweeted link to this page. 2016-09-27 23:08:09 -0400
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  • signed 2016-09-27 14:25:19 -0400
    It’s ABSURD to cut all the Cobble Hill and Carroll Gardens service!!!! Seriously? Leave at least 1 stop open – Bergen or Carroll – what a joke. And this after you cut the best bus ever – the 63 from Red Hook and Carroll Gardens to grand army plaza – making it impossible to get there from here… Idiotic.
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