Join Brooklyn Elected Officials and Neighbors. Support F Train Service that Works for All!

We are outraged by the MTA’s treatment of Brooklyn straphangers on the F line.

The MTA’s so-called “F Express” proposal harms more F riders than it helps. It adds no service to the line. Instead, it simply pits Brooklyn residents against each other, creating ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ without sufficient information or dialogue.

Winners don’t really win: With irregular service times alternating between express and locals trains, riders can’t count on a meaningful change to their commute. They will still have to set their alarms and leave their homes at the same time as they do now.

Losers lose big: The MTA’s proposal would eliminate half the trains from the 6 local stations between Church Avenue and Jay Street/MetroTech. The result: long wait times and severely increased crowding at the fastest-growing stations.  

And now, they won’t even meet with us: The announcement of this proposal blindsided our communities. Now, despite a sworn promise to the contrary, the MTA refuses to even schedule a meeting to hear the concerns the community has raised. The total lack of response is completely unacceptable.

We refuse to accept the MTA’s current proposal as a done deal. We urge the MTA to not implement “F Express” service until a new plan to improve service on the F line for all riders, at local and express stops has been thoroughly vetted by the community.

We join our elected officials, Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan in demanding a plan to improve the F line in Brooklyn that doesn’t compromise riders on local stops and pit communities against one another.

We don’t want winners and losers. We don’t want F service that’s even less dependable than now.

We want improvements to the F line that work for all of us.

More about the MTA’s current proposal:

  • The proposal does not add any service to the F line, despite increased “F Express” track capacity.
  • Instead, it simply eliminates half the trains at 6 stations (Bergen St, Carroll St, Smith/9th St, 4th Ave/9th St, 15th St, and Ft. Hamilton Parkway). Trains will come 4-5 minutes less often (when they are on schedule). 
  • The MTA’s own report shows that the total number of riders who will suffer under this proposal (52%) is actually greater than the number of riders who will benefit (48%).  
  • That gap will grow larger over time. Ridership growth has been highest at the local stations between Church Av and Bergen St (66%). Growth at express stops (i.e., Church Av and 7 Av) was 34%. Meanwhile, ridership growth at stations south of Church Av, both express and local stops, has been considerably lower (18% and 15% respectively).
  • The “winners” don’t even really win. The MTA’s analysis of travel times shows that express riders during the AM peak hour would save on average 3.4 minutes due to faster running times. But in actuality, half the time these riders will save about 7 minutes, and half the time they’ll save nothing. With only 58% of trains operating on time, there’s no way to predict which is which. Even express stop riders will still have to set their alarm for the same time.
  • The proposal would severely exacerbate station congestion and travel delays. Riders at the Bergen and Carroll Stations will lose more travel time than riders at any single express stop will gain.
  • At Bergen Street, the MTA’s report predicts a nightmarish crowd, with a wait nearly five times longer for commuters trying to exit the Warren Street stairwell during the evening rush hour.
  • The MTA did not conduct real community engagement before it released its report.
  • Despite committing to do so in sworn testimony before the City Council, the MTA is now refusing to even schedule a meeting with the public about the proposal … or even with those elected to represent them.

Join Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan.

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  • signed 2016-07-15 11:07:01 -0400
    I am SOOOOO angry about this. F train service is already SOOOOO BAAAAAAAD. Many of my friends refuse to come visit me at home because they know they will have such a long, lousy ride on the F train to get there. Please don’t make this worse than it already is!!!!!
  • signed 2016-07-15 11:06:05 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-15 10:24:16 -0400
    Paul Pillitteri
  • signed 2016-07-15 09:58:30 -0400
  • signed 2016-07-15 09:29:08 -0400
    Most of the time, I now walk to/from Jay Street or Hoyt Schermerhorn to avoid unbelievable waiting time and dangerously crowded platforms – and more than once I let a train go at Bergen because it is impossible to board-in. The train frequency was already appalling. The F-line is a disgrace in the face of NYC and its MTA.
  • signed 2016-07-15 08:41:57 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-14 22:25:33 -0400
    This proposal is extremely disturbing to me and my family, who are daily commuters at the Carroll St. stop. On weekends, the need to go deeper into Brooklyn in order to return to Carroll Street causes great hardship and delay. We are deeply concerned about the disregard by the MTA of this community’s pressing transportation needs.
  • signed 2016-07-14 21:47:00 -0400
    Ridership at the local F stops has been growing by leaps and bounds, in particular at the 4th Ave/9th Street stop due to the construction of a number of large apartment buildings on 4th Avenue. Reducing the number of local F trains would be a real hardship and I might have to consider using the R line instead that has less frequent service than the F line now. 4th Ave/9th Street is also a transfer station between F/G and R trains, so those riders who transfer from the R to the F or vice versa would be affected very negatively because they would face infrequent service on 2 lines (F and R) and would lose even more time having to wait for trains. If the MTA wants to add express trains to the F line, that would be great, but they should not reduce the number of local trains.
  • posted about this on Facebook 2016-07-14 21:30:12 -0400
    Tell the MTA we need F Train service that works for all:
  • signed 2016-07-14 21:29:47 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-14 20:53:00 -0400
    Larry Larson
  • signed 2016-07-14 20:28:38 -0400
  • signed 2016-07-14 14:55:41 -0400
    We need more F trains, not fewer!
  • signed 2016-07-14 14:47:46 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-14 10:56:53 -0400
  • signed 2016-07-14 10:52:51 -0400
    it is hard enough to get to work with trains running late and all. I have to travel from 59th street on the R make that long climb up those 97 stairs to transfer over for 2 stops to Carroll street it’s not right to do this to people we have to make a living as well as all of you at the MTA
  • signed 2016-07-14 08:52:54 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-13 18:27:03 -0400
    Bernice Gordon
  • signed 2016-07-13 17:47:04 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-13 15:16:59 -0400
    I’m signing this because I can barely get on rush hour trains at Carroll St, often letting 1 or 2 packed trains go by before I can get on. cutting our service 50% is ridiculous and does nothing to solve that problem!
  • signed 2016-07-13 15:13:17 -0400
    Needs serious improvements as well as Handicap access considerations.
  • signed 2016-07-13 13:19:29 -0400
    Caroline Escobar