Join Brooklyn Elected Officials and Neighbors. Support F Train Service that Works for All!

We are outraged by the MTA’s treatment of Brooklyn straphangers on the F line.

The MTA’s so-called “F Express” proposal harms more F riders than it helps. It adds no service to the line. Instead, it simply pits Brooklyn residents against each other, creating ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ without sufficient information or dialogue.

Winners don’t really win: With irregular service times alternating between express and locals trains, riders can’t count on a meaningful change to their commute. They will still have to set their alarms and leave their homes at the same time as they do now.

Losers lose big: The MTA’s proposal would eliminate half the trains from the 6 local stations between Church Avenue and Jay Street/MetroTech. The result: long wait times and severely increased crowding at the fastest-growing stations.  

And now, they won’t even meet with us: The announcement of this proposal blindsided our communities. Now, despite a sworn promise to the contrary, the MTA refuses to even schedule a meeting to hear the concerns the community has raised. The total lack of response is completely unacceptable.

We refuse to accept the MTA’s current proposal as a done deal. We urge the MTA to not implement “F Express” service until a new plan to improve service on the F line for all riders, at local and express stops has been thoroughly vetted by the community.

We join our elected officials, Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan in demanding a plan to improve the F line in Brooklyn that doesn’t compromise riders on local stops and pit communities against one another.

We don’t want winners and losers. We don’t want F service that’s even less dependable than now.

We want improvements to the F line that work for all of us.

More about the MTA’s current proposal:

  • The proposal does not add any service to the F line, despite increased “F Express” track capacity.
  • Instead, it simply eliminates half the trains at 6 stations (Bergen St, Carroll St, Smith/9th St, 4th Ave/9th St, 15th St, and Ft. Hamilton Parkway). Trains will come 4-5 minutes less often (when they are on schedule). 
  • The MTA’s own report shows that the total number of riders who will suffer under this proposal (52%) is actually greater than the number of riders who will benefit (48%).  
  • That gap will grow larger over time. Ridership growth has been highest at the local stations between Church Av and Bergen St (66%). Growth at express stops (i.e., Church Av and 7 Av) was 34%. Meanwhile, ridership growth at stations south of Church Av, both express and local stops, has been considerably lower (18% and 15% respectively).
  • The “winners” don’t even really win. The MTA’s analysis of travel times shows that express riders during the AM peak hour would save on average 3.4 minutes due to faster running times. But in actuality, half the time these riders will save about 7 minutes, and half the time they’ll save nothing. With only 58% of trains operating on time, there’s no way to predict which is which. Even express stop riders will still have to set their alarm for the same time.
  • The proposal would severely exacerbate station congestion and travel delays. Riders at the Bergen and Carroll Stations will lose more travel time than riders at any single express stop will gain.
  • At Bergen Street, the MTA’s report predicts a nightmarish crowd, with a wait nearly five times longer for commuters trying to exit the Warren Street stairwell during the evening rush hour.
  • The MTA did not conduct real community engagement before it released its report.
  • Despite committing to do so in sworn testimony before the City Council, the MTA is now refusing to even schedule a meeting with the public about the proposal … or even with those elected to represent them.

Join Council Member Brad Lander, Council Member Stephen Levin, Council Member Carlos Menchaca, State Senator Daniel Squadron, State Senator Jesse Hamilton, State Senator Velmanette Montgomery, Assembly Member Jo Anne Simon, and Assembly Member James Brennan.

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  • signed 2016-07-14 10:52:51 -0400
    it is hard enough to get to work with trains running late and all. I have to travel from 59th street on the R make that long climb up those 97 stairs to transfer over for 2 stops to Carroll street it’s not right to do this to people we have to make a living as well as all of you at the MTA
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    Bernice Gordon
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  • signed 2016-07-13 15:16:59 -0400
    I’m signing this because I can barely get on rush hour trains at Carroll St, often letting 1 or 2 packed trains go by before I can get on. cutting our service 50% is ridiculous and does nothing to solve that problem!
  • signed 2016-07-13 15:13:17 -0400
    Needs serious improvements as well as Handicap access considerations.
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    Caroline Escobar
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    Tell the MTA we need F Train service that works for all:
  • @janinesopp tweeted link to this page. 2016-07-12 21:04:52 -0400
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  • signed 2016-07-12 18:39:08 -0400
    Preposterous idea, what with the increased traffic of all kinds along the F line, which is getting increasingly more crowded.

    The city is doing everything it can to make life good for developers developing in Brooklyn — can’t you at least make it better (or, at the very least, not make it any worse?!?) for the folks who actually live along the line?


    Heidi Reinberg
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  • signed 2016-07-12 16:02:51 -0400
    The rush hour trains at Carroll and Bergen are crowded as it is. Less trains is not the answer. Additional express trains is a great idea but the number of overall trains need to be increased as there are more riders than ever, and even more on the way due to the addition of more than 700 new apartments along the Gowanus. COME ON MTA – DO SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ONCE!